11/29/2009 10:22:33 PM
 Van Posts: 4
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God is a scary word for many people. Sometimes it is easier to think all of life happened by chance (even though we now see that this is impossible) because the alternative - the Bible, the Torah, the Koran, the Gita or whatever, seems so primitive. We feel we have advanced and we are no longer subject to the superstitions of our ancestors, and that is true. Scriptures, from whichever religion, now seem archaic and unsatisfactory to our 'enlightened' minds. Once again, I agree, we do not want to go back in time, we do not want to rip up all our textbooks and scientific knowledge - but we do not have to. To say that there is intelligence behind life does not mean the Bible is coming into the class room, but rather that scientists can now investigate the intricate systems behind life to figure out how they are designed and if that means accepting something bigger, more advanced than humans is behind it all - well so be it! There is a God, there is intention to life. We do not know what it is but that does not mean it is not there. It seems to me that Atheism has hijacked science and holds it for ransom. Atheism claims exclusive rights over all scientific data. It seems that if a scientist chooses to explain facts in his field of study as having intelligence in their design, he/she is blacklisted as a ' right wing bible thumping creationist'. It is easier to blacken someone's character than to address their concerns. If you look at current Darwinist theories for life, the world and the universe - anything goes, anything at all, as long as there is no mention of God. Why??? Whenever you hear of 'Intelligent Design' being taught to students, it is presented as right wing Adam and Eve creationist propaganda, but that is not was Intelligent Design is about. It is about trying to understand and tell students, our future scientists, about recent discoveries in molecular biology, genetics and astronomy.
I feel there is something much graver as a consequence of this atheistic view of evolution - undermining morality. If everything is created as a lucky fluke then morality plays no part. Killing, exploiting or cheating others is perfectly fine. In fact, it will help you succeed in your gene pool. It is common to say that more wars have been committed in the name of religion than anything else has - but that is not true. WW1, in which 20 million died, was about a territory. WW2, in which 8 million Jews were killed, was about Darwin's theory of natural selection - Hitler was trying to advance the Aryan race. We know that morality is an essential part of our humanity, yet there is no justification for it in an Atheist world. Why be good, kind, fair, or honest without a higher moral code to justify it? Atheists would say because a whole community can decide what is best for the majority of the inhabitants, which means no murder, no theft of property, etc. By that argument then the Nazis were completely morally right - they were voted in by an overwhelming majority of the German people. Yet we know in our bones they were morally wrong - intrinsically we know we share a humanity that follows a moral code put forth in our scriptures. Our scriptures, whatever our faith, play an integral role in our humanity and treatment of each other and the atheistic world view has no adequate replacement. So Atheism cannot explain life (by Darwin or any other theory) nor can it justify a moral approach to life - yet we hang on to it! We are told it is the only rational view because there are many careers, institutions and money at stake so maintain the status quo needs to be maintained. No institution wants to give up power or wealth, especially one that jealously guards all scientific facts as their own. It seems to me that we have replaced the priests of the church with the priests of science - only they have access and can interpret the scared knowledge (scientific facts). Even if what they say makes no sense, we must accept their interpretation as truth. It smacks of religious doctrine, but because it is cloaked in 'rational thought', it is unquestionable. Well - crap that! And I am overjoyed to see more and more questioning individuals such as yourself.
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11/29/2009 10:39:35 PM
 Mark Posts: 6
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Nowhere do I claim to be able to prove God’s existence. As an AUD Christian, I try to explain why God would choose to be anonymous—if he exists. I see God as a practical person with similar aspirations and curiosities; e.g., what is consciousness? What is freewill? What is gravity? I interpret him as being vastly more advanced than we are but not omniscient, omnipotent or omnipresent—since that creates dozens of paradoxes.
-- Mark Plain Omniscience is the only thing that freewill is sure to be free of.
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